Posts by FatFreek 2005

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1914 Dropped

by pale.emperor in

so i was observing an online conversation between a jw and a former-jw.

the non-jw pointed out that wwi cant have had anything to do with satan supposedly being "cast out of heaven" because wwi was already well under way in oct 1914.. the jw proceeds to explain that satan was actually thrown down to the earth in 1915 and that he started to wreak havock on the earth from heaven knowing he was about to be cast out.. so 1914 is officially old light now?

does anyone have a source for that or was this brother lying through his teeth?.

FatFreek 2005

"True to Bible prophecy, this world’s “conclusion” began in 1914 and was marked by the outbreak of the first world war." THe Watchtower, Jan 1, 2000, p. 8, par. 10

Thanks for that, Petra.

Here, Watchtower makes it sound like they predicted WWI to happen in 1914.
They never did. Isn't it strange that of the 24 happenings they predicted for 1914, World War I (The Great War) was not one of them.

Thanks to internet search technology, Watchtower can no longer hide from what they said (or didn't say).

In electronically scouring of all WT Publications prior to 1914, which prophetically cite 1914 and what would happen on or before that "special" date, there is absolutely no mention of a war, much less "the Great War", beginning in 1914. There were, however, 24 other prophecies WT pages made concerning 1914 and, of course, they all failed to materialize.
You may check out those citations for yourself at the following link."The 24 Prophetic Failures of Watchtower’s Most Heralded Date, 1914"https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mh0MaBvejUwEU9uh3YCI8lH8M1zCKP1K/view?usp=sharing

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Figuring out a relative who is quite high up in wt world

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking about a relative who is quite high up in wt world.

she is a university graduated accountant, who i know has worked on various projects for wt around the world.

my question is, with all the goings on in wt world, what must be going through her head.

FatFreek 2005

The world of JWs and ex-JWs needs someone exactly in her position to wake up and become a whistleblower.

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William Miller

by lepavoux in

" this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

!.

FatFreek 2005

Lest we forget, WT (Russell, Rutherford) referred to William Miller as "Father Miller" till the mid 1920s.

Len Miller (no, I'm not a relative)

23

Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

by Vanderhoven7 in

great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

FatFreek 2005

Hmmmm .... The mike was turned off and he was physically interrupted by a man, probably elder, at 14:50.

I'm not clear exactly what he said that violated JW protocol. I hope someone can clear this up.

He doesn't sound like a radical at all. Quite pleasant, mild mannered, mostly eloquent.

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The women that abandon “The Good News” are a large army

by Aimee.Padilla in

to be born a woman is a great disadvantage in many parts of the world and much more if she is part of a destructive sect like the jehovah’s witnesses where she is submitted to the “theocratic order” being the base that sustains the corporate pyramid, displaying submission at all times before male authority.

those of us that have been part of this cult can verify that the woman has to carry out a series of practices that for the rest of society is somewhat incomprehensible.

i’d like to draw your attention to the act of head covering, if for any reason a woman has to pray in public while a male is present, who is not available to lead the prayer, she must cover her head because she wouldn’t be respecting the arrangement of authority if she didn’t.

FatFreek 2005

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No more hour requirements for pioneers

by solomon in

it was announced at the meeting.

do what you are able to because of covid.. i think i should sign up as i’m able to meet the hour requirements.

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FatFreek 2005

Hmmm .... sign me up. But, remind me again -- what are the benefits?

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Remember Daisy, the BB Gun? Some early history

by FatFreek 2005 in

i was still a jw at the time and my four boys were always anxious for me to bring home a daisy product.

i did just that during a weekend for a lab tryout.

ha!

FatFreek 2005

To all: one or all of those links may not have worked. I sent the following PM to the one who reported a problem.

"Good morning. I'm so glad you got back to me on this matter as I am new to this Google Drive sharing. I changed the setting on all 3 documents to "anyone on the web can view this doc".

Please let me know if I got them right or wrong. I can't tell from this end cuz I'm the creator of the files and already have permission. Len Miller

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Remember Daisy, the BB Gun? Some early history

by FatFreek 2005 in

i was still a jw at the time and my four boys were always anxious for me to bring home a daisy product.

i did just that during a weekend for a lab tryout.

ha!

FatFreek 2005

I walked to work one day, camera in hand. After a 14 inch snowfall the day before.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1at_dmluvgekZyDpRarfeuUHdI18CyR_j/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EfSMq_shKMyhfsY1VTOBWQkTGKPPhjE7/view?usp=sharing

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Remember Daisy, the BB Gun? Some early history

by FatFreek 2005 in

i was still a jw at the time and my four boys were always anxious for me to bring home a daisy product.

i did just that during a weekend for a lab tryout.

ha!

FatFreek 2005

I was still a JW at the time and my four boys were always anxious for me to bring home a Daisy product. I did just that during a weekend for a lab tryout. Ha! It was really for my pleasure although my conscience stung a bit because of Watchtower teaching. The gun was a pistol, a modified early model of the CO2 200. Which brings me to my motive for posting.

I was a young tool and die designer for Daisy in the late 60s and early 70s. I recently found three early issues of their newsletters, "The Daisy Aim", in my files. They are charming, historically informative -- perhaps more so to present day readers. They were all very well written -- one of them at the pen of Beth Hough (wife of then president of Daisy, Cass Hough). Yes, both have since passed and although I never personally met them, I alway held that dynamic couple in the highest esteem.

I decided to scan them so others may get the same pleasure I received. You may click on links to those newsletters, peeking into Rogers, Ar (and Daisy) history, from 60 years ago.

The Daisy Aim Newsletter Toy BB Gun Compay Nov 1960.pdf

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qc59Yw9EiCqfBdcOqNzM04MK_RXOSUvy/view?usp=sharing

The Daisy Aim Newsletter Toy BB Gun Compay Dec 1960.pdf

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x-uqxYS5JKIwQvfXjEmr_blK3-ncV7WP/view?usp=sharing

The Daisy Aim Newsletter Toy BB Gun Compay Feb 1964.pdf

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NoCvbb2rrC2Wu7CVt8eCGqx1oATKS4Y1/view?usp=sharing

Len Miller

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Another Unnecessary Early Death

by Slidin Fast in

a young man in somerset in england, under massive pressure from financial and relationship issues lapsed into mental illness.

he was unlucky enough to have as his support system the local congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

one of the symptoms of his illness was the use of tobacco.

FatFreek 2005

I am now 79 and still remember the struggles I had to quit smoking. I was just a kid at 21 and during a long Thanksgiving weekend, away from the influence of my work buddies, and quit the habit -- and don't regret it now. But I truly loved it then.

It would be another 10 years or so when it became a DF offense and I totally empathized with the then elderly who were struggling with their addiction.

What haunted my thinking then was Jesus words, Matthew 15:11 11What goes into someone's mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them."